Another one of my random questions. First, let's start by identifying the contenders. Who are the teams? What year? What did they accomplish? Go!
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Jesuit for the Boys
Mountain View-CCS 2009 State Meet 78:26 (Central Coast Section record)
Is the fastest team time by a Nor Cal team at Woodward Park
Don't forget the pre-Woodward Park days for comparing teams. Back then, you had the National 2 mile postal for comparisons and bragging rights. And the top teams were well represented by NorCal teams. Check out the 1978 and earlier teams here: http://xcnation.runnerspace.com/gprofile.php?do=title&title_id=782&mgroup_id=45417
Top NorCal teams would put up 47:00-47:30 (ave 9:25-9:30 for 5 runners). It would be nice to see NorCal teams revisit the 3200m National Postals.
Sorry about the old fart post. Oh, and we ran in three feet of snow on most race days back then....
1 Mission San Jose 47:05.0
2 Skyline 48:39.0
3 Mills 49:27.0
4 Carlmont 49:28.0
5 Westmont 49:34.0
6 Castro Valley 50:10.0
7 Leigh 50:14.0
8 Watsonville 50:19.0
9 Menlo atherton 50:26.0
10 Irvington 51:02.0
11 Independence 51:24.0
12 St. Francis 51:31.0
13 Gunn 51:51.0
14 Overfelt 52:00.0
15 Santa Cruz 52:06.0
16 San Ramon 52:20.0
17 Bellermine 52:30.0
18 James Lick 52:30.0
19 St. Ignatius 52:52.0
20 Gilroy 53:01.0
21 Soquel 53:49.0
22 Sunnyvale 53:55.0
23 Half Moon Bay 54:15.0
24 San Lorenzo Valley 54:33.0
25 Menlo School 56:43.0
26 Awalt 57:07.0
27 Palo Alto 57:16.0
Read more: XCnation - POSTAL NATIONALS - 1978 POSTAL NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS http://www.runnerspace.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45417#ixzz2ihkZjGif
Im looking for top NCS team times at Hayward. Anyone got 'em?
I believe that Campolindo holds the top two team times at Hayward High School. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2011-77:53
(14:58,15:29,15:29,15:50,16:07)
2008-77:55
(15:10,15:28,15:38,15:45,15:53)
Either Jesuit with the Mastalir twins from '84-'85 or Mission San Jose behind Jay Marden '78-81. My pick would be MSJ with the Marden's from 1978; total team time 2nd fastest all time on Crystal with no one slower then 16 and 4 sub 15:15.
It's definitely not the Jesuit '85 team. They weren't even the best team in Northern California that year. They lost to Bellarmine at both the Clovis Invitational (with their full squad) and at the NorCal Championships (missing one of the Mastalir twins, but wouldn't have won anyway). That Jesuit team was probably the best 1-3 or 1-4 of all time, but they didn't have a 5th man.
That '85 Bellarmine team didn't have a superstar up front, but had their usual depth with 5 guys from 15:03-15:35 at Crystal Springs. Amazingly, the 6th man was the California state champion at 1600 the next year in Scott Robinson at around 4:08.
My vote goes to Mission San Jose. Four guys under 15:15 and a 5th in the 15:50s at Crystal is amazing.
MSJ had The Marden brothers, Steve Stranglio and Rich Reed 1-4 correct?
Skyline Had Tom Downs 8:55, Greg Valdez 4:12 and Jamie Pearl 4:13...those were two epic teams.
Top 3 two mile postal - NorCal
1978 Mission San Jose 47:05
1971 Carlmont 47:32
1975 Redwood 47:34
Whoops...left out
1968 Homestead 47:11
with times of 9:17, 9:19, 9:26, 9:35, 9:36, (6th runner 9:38)
'78 MSJ was 9:04, 9:21, 9:23, 9:23, 9:55
If you want depth the '68 Homestead team had 12 guys break 10minutes at the 2 Mile postal on the same day.
Sweet - equivalent #5 JV runner sub-10:00.
Looking at the course converters, there is no conversion to flat 3200m. Might not be a bad idea ;-)
'68 Homestead, '68 Burlingame, and '68 Ygnacio Valley. Only team that beat Ygnacio Valley in '68 was Homestead and while a solid win for Homestead (at Terra Nova Invite), it was a very good race with all seven guys for each team close to each other. Ygnacio's coach after '65 was an idiot and never let them run Postal. Ray Edman (he coached Morgan Groth when Groth set the National High School mile record in '61) coached Ygnacio in 1965 only and their freshman team would have been #3 national except Ygnacio used Olpin for varsity (I guess) Never understood why they (we) weren't listed-the postal was with Central and Pleasant Hill among others, held at Ygnacio and even without Olpin they would have been in the top 10 frosh). There were so many good teams in the Bay Area from '63 to '70--just amazing. And not so sure Campolindo has better totals at Hayward than '68 Ygnacio, even without their #4 man (me=sick!, finished second to last) at North Coast Finals. Hansen:14:59, Olpin: 15:10 can't remember the rest...
Olpin ran a 9:02 at Terra Nova Invite in '67 on a broken ankle. Broke it near the start on the first downhill. Somewhere there's a glossy 8x10 press photo of him finishing, 3rd behind Jim Tracy: 8:51 and Klaus Hoffmann: 8:52.
I was 4th in 9:06, my teammate, Al Rios was 5th in 9:08, Wilcox HS. Dan Cruz
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