4/21/2012 08:18:00 PM
2012 Track and Field,
Northern California Results Track '12
Where are the field results?!?
is Chris Waschura okay? he doesn't seem as sharp as he was as last year, but i understand that can be for a lot of reasons.
Adrian Hinojosa definitely showed he is putting his name in the hat for a bid for state 9 second pr that's impressive on any day.
I am sure the field events will be added shortly. I thought I read somewhere that Chris is having some healthy issues. Hopefully he can right the ship by CCS time.Hinojosa's 1600 was very impressive although overshadowed by Davis and Estifanos.
Hey Albert! Any word on full results?
Rob,I emailed Mark. He timed the San Mateo meet today as well so he might just need sometime to get everything to Hank.
The announcing at the Top 8 meet was terrible. Some terrific field event performances were never even mentioned. Many athletes and events went completely unrecognized as the announcer went on and on about the girl's pole vault.
It's the Los Gatos show. Any time an athlete or coach can be highlighted they do it. They put on the meet so that is understandable.That said, other events should be reported on.
Agree with the previous post. Shot, discus, high jump, long jump, triple jump never mentioned. #4 CA discus and #7 CA shot by teammates. #3 CA triple jump. No mention of any of this. Complete slight to those athletes and coaches. Makes you miss Doug Speck.
Performances of the meet have to be Hiltz and Estifanos. There were a lot of great athletes but Hiltz tripled helping to score 26 of her team's 30 points. Estifanos doubled to get 18 points outscoring over 30 teams by himself. Lot's of good 4x400 times in all 3 divisions as well. Really makes it interesting for who will clinch the state births from CCS.
In fairness to Mike Dudley, he is on the track covering the track races. Somebody has to give him the field information and I am sure he would be happy to report it.
Agree. They need to have a second announcer covering field events. Plus a timer who can get the results online immediately like record timing. Best meet in Nor Cal hands down and a lot of that has to do with SJCC. Anyone ever think of doing a Nor Cal Top 8 and bring together the best of ccs, sjs, cs, & ncs? That might rival Arcadia.
Agree with previous posters. These are the best athletes in CCS giving their best effort in every event. Fair or unfair, there's 16 events, and if you are only announcing 8 or 9 of them you are doing a poor job by definition. Maybe it was a poor team effort and Mike is the victim, but the meet was poorly announced with many errors on the running events. Wrong athletes identified, even wrong heats called. Arcadia calls out the field events round by round, announcing leaders and top marks. And they do this for even the emerging athlete flights. Makes for a more exciting meet, and pumps up all the athletes, not just the runners. CCS Top 8 is not Arcadia, and Dudley will never be Speck, but a little effort goes a long way.
agree. i was at arcadia this year and they were calling the boys discus to the entire stadium, round by round. the announcer told everyone that the boy from Newport Harbor had just set the US #1 in discus. he encouraged fans to go over and cheer them on so i went over there also with maybe 50 other people from the stands. there was maybe 150 people watching discus and it was great. i guess these were fans who might never watch anything other than running or pole vault in the middle of the field while running is going on. a quality announcer can really make the whole meet exciting and pump up the athletes. CCS top 8 or CCS just doesn't create this type of environment which is too bad.
Full results are up btw. But here is something that is a pet peeve of mine as a jumps coach... No wind readings! I saw the wind gauge there but no reported readings. So now all of these marks are illegal and do not count in State rankings. It's a shame, and must improve at big meets like these.
Bellarmine has to be the favorites to win CCS now. WCAL dominated as usual. Though only getting 2 spots to CCS will hurt them a ton, I think they will still win it all!!!!
The wind guages are a MUST especially for the sprints and field events. There is no excuse for that especially at such a high quality meet.
Ahhh, the problems of living in a computerized world. Arcadia has tons of data at the announcers fingertips for they are using FieldLynx which is instantly available for the announcer to report results on. As is the fact that all FinishLynx results are also available to the man in the booth with a computer in front of him. Mike is one man doing a two person (or more) job(s). Would be nice if more folks would step forward and ask Meet Management "What can I do to help". Wind gauges were there but the people to run them weren't. One coach went and clicked the gauge for his athlete to get a reading and reported it to the results folks - that's how the one wind reading got in for the field event, now if there were just other volunteers to step forward to man the machines... Results could be posted instantly, technology is there, it just needs to be specified as a priority by Meet Management and I'm sure their main priority was running a smooth meet at a new location with no major glitches. Hopefully Meet Management will gather for a post meet evaluation and review what went right and what can go better and ideas for the future to make this a better meet. I would say the meet is moving in a forward direction based on the quality of marks achieved this year. I know I am one busy guy today trying to update the CCS Top Marks list - all these fine performances made my job alot tougher.hank
What's ridiculous about the CCS top 8 vs. "actual CCS" is that in some events WCAL has more than 2 people in contention for first, so its ridiculous for the real CCS not to take that into account.
Every running event was announced with times to the 100th of a second within a few minutes if not immediately after the races. The field events were posted on a wall and never announced. Field events that were concluded HOURS earlier were not announced, including some near top state performances. Whatever the reason or excuse, this sends the message to the field athletes that their event isn't important in the eyes of the people running the meet. The lack of wind gauges for the jumps simply backs up the same argument.
I disagree on the statement:"The lack of wind gauges for the jumps simply backs up the same argument."The only reason that there were wind readings for the track events is because I pushed the button and recorded the reading and brought it over to the results table. Something anyone over in the jumps area could have also done. I was there at the meet as a spectator and saw that a volunteer was needed and took the initiative to help out. Others could have stepped up to do the same, especially those criticizing.hank
nobody has a problem with how the running events were handled and it appears hank played a big role as usual. I assume somebody was in charge of the triple jump, calling out contestants and watching for fouls. that person should be competent enough to turn on the wind gauge or ask someone to do it. there are coaches standing around everywhere who are willing to help. the coaches likely assumed the event was being conducted properly since it's a marquis meet. same with the announcing. when it's 8:00pm and the boys discus has been over for 4 hours, Dave could make an announcement and say "someone get me the results for discus" I'm sure any one of the 1000 people there could have grabbed the sheet and handed it to him. People paid a $5 entry fee to see a meet run on at least a semi-competent basis. at some point it's either well-run or it ain't
Agree with the above statement. If volunteers are needed this should be addressed before the meet begins. Seeing the gauges gives the appearance wind reading are being taken done properly. Don't get me wrong, I apreciate the efforts of all involved and especially Hank who stepped up but if you can arrange volunteers to collect the gate fee ahead of time surely this can be done as well.
it is a joke that WCAL only gets 2 spots at CCS this meet clearly shoes the WCAL's superior talent.
The announcing was good and bad. the good is that he is very informational as the meet goes along. The bad is that he singles out a few athletes big time. Especially the kids he coaches. Waschura, Davis, and Bishop. Kinda felt bad for Waschura, and Bishop. Gave them some long intros and they come out and ran not to good. The Bishop intro to sum it up went something like this. 1st in ccs, 5th in the state, going to stanford, Loves the energy of the crowd,going to try and break 9 minutes, cheer him on and only him. Final result 9:45. Maybe he shoulda mentioned. Yohaness Estifannos CCS cross country D1 Champion, and only runner this year to run under 15 at Crystal. or maybe just a quick mention of the names of everyone in the race. Did the same thing at K-bell this year.
Also WCAL's also gets to Recruit outside of there League, just by looking at all the Private Schools in that league!
Yeah, that's it... recruit. Not that the majority of driven young men academically and athletically would ever choose to go to Bellarmine right?Outside of Bellarmine (and Mitty Volleyball and Baskeyball) if these schools are recruiting and are this bad shame on them! They are not any better than the local high schools in their area.
The advantage that private schools have over public schools is that they can get students from a broader area. I am sure there are rogue coaches out there who do recruit but the majority of private schools are getting those kids to come to them based on their reputation of success.
It's official, CCS has surpassed NCS in quality and depth as the premier section of 2012. Not long ago it was all NCS but the central coast has taken off, alumni included!Well done kids the pendulum has swung.
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