Saturday, November 18, 2017

North Coast Section MOC Meet

Results can be found here:
http://www.rtspt.com/events/cif/2017Meets/ncsxc/

As a reminder, my preview/predictions can be found below. Feel free to comment on those and what actually transpired today.
http://ca.milesplit.com/articles/227426-2017-north-coast-section-moc-xc-meet-preview

Also, feel free to comment below on what took place today. Most dominant individuals and teams? Biggest surprises? Individuals and teams that will make the biggest impact at next week's state meet. Comments always welcome.

I will post some data from today's meet sometime tomorrow including the all-NCS teams.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have heard that the 2017 meet for NCS used the same course as in 2016.
But when I look at boys who ran both years I am not seeing the improved times I would expect.
Anyone know why this course might have been slower?

Albert Caruana said...

Because this year, it was 3 miles.

Anonymous said...

There were large patches of mud and gravel

Anonymous said...

What was it last year?

Anonymous said...

What was the exact measurement last year?

Anonymous said...

The course was much more muddy this year

Anonymous said...

Albert, check with Peter Brewer, but I'm almost certain that the NCS "adjusted" course used in 2017 and 2016 are the same. The difference is between the Mariner Inv. and various dual/tri meets that have been held on the "course." I believe the difference in the Mariner Inv. and dual/tri meets is that those meets did not follow the same procedures to ensure runners weren't running further inside on the fields and not all corners were marked the same as the NCS course, thus making those meets shorter than a true 3 miles. Also, a reminder to all, the only way to accurately measure a course is with a wheel and following the proper standards for measurement. In other words, a GPS watch isn't accurate.

Julian Galicia Thomas said...

Is there a list of the teams that qualified for state in each division?

Anonymous said...

http://www.rtspt.com/events/cif/xc2017/cif_entries.pdf

Anonymous said...

I'll give my comments on the boys side today compared to your projections. DI, Cal high was a nice surprise, moving into second for NCS from outside top three projected. No real individual surprises. Times a little on the "not so fast" side, but that could've been the pace set by lead runners. DII was the highlight race of the day for boys. No team surprises at all. Maybe biggest overall individual surprise of the day was Livingston from De La Salle winning outright over some quality runners. If people are honest with themselves, they probably had two or three other guys winning that race before Livingston as a dark, dark horse. Also not in your individual projections but finished 4th and 5th overall were Rich from Washington and White from Clayton Valley. This race had 16 runners finish sub 16:00, far and away more than any other race. Fast pace from the onset with a great finish by Livingston to overtake Scomparin from Dublin at the finishing stretch. For DIII, you were spot on with your teams. Las Lomas moved ahead of Redwood for third was the only swap. Anderson had the most impressive run of the day, and those you mentioned in your projections held true to form. DIV may have had the biggest surprises in teams moving up and down. Bishop O'Dowd finished 5th as a team, and were expected to do much better while Piedmont climbed from outside the top 5 to grab a team state bid. Also big kudos to Wolford from SF Drake for his 3rd place finish. He was no where in your field projections, maybe outside of Livingston, the best individual move into podium finish. Finally, in D5, you once again hit your projections. Other then some teams shuffling around in the top 5, they all sealed their own fate and ran well enough to get to Fresno. D5 individuals also had some minor movements of guys moving up or down a spot or two, but no real surprises. Congratulations to all the teams and individuals moving on to Fresno, best of luck, enjoy the experience. Keep up the good work Albert, we love your stuff.

Anonymous said...

Watching the boys D4 race was very exciting especially since we were rooting for the boys in purple. Even though their race didn't go as planned, it worked. Fresno bound!

Anonymous said...

How does Hayward's new course compare to Toro? It seems that the times from Toro were ~10 seconds faster on average

Peter Brewer said...

The NCS course measured out right at 3.0 miles. Last year, despite following the map generated by the contractors of the construction project, the course ended up being shorter than the full distance. Also, the Farmer Invite, the Mariner Invite, and two WACC meets, all run previously this year on this course, all had variations of layout due to the ongoing construction and so had significant variations of time. For the NCS meet, far more scrupulous care was taken to have the full distance, a clearly marked course, and the weather gave us a break (outside of a bit of a muddy back loop). Even with a slightly different configuration, the course ran the same terrain and had the same distance as the previous course. The times proved to be historically close to previous races, which allows us the luxury of continuing the long-term historicity of the course.

Anonymous said...

Peter Brewer was spot on in his brief synopsis of the NCS xc course. He and his volunteers did a good job of conducting this esteemed meet. He is the big kahuna! All the best to all the individual and team qualifiers. See you all in Fresno!

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