Sunday, June 30, 2013

Central Coast Section Top 10 Individuals (Boys and Girls)

Boys
1)  Steven Sum Saratoga Division II
2)  Scott Edwards Scotts Valley Division IV
3)  Steven Velarde San Benito Division I
4)  Terence Rabuzzi Los Altos Division II
5)  James Welsh Monterey Division III
6)  Corey Gonzalez Harker Division IV
7)  Chris Foster Los Gatos Division II
8)  Justin Robison Lynbrook Division II
9)  Ben Zaeske Los Altos Division II
10)  Jose Pina Abraham Lincoln Division I

Girls
1)  Anna Maxwell San Lorenzo Valley Division IV
2)  Sarah Robinson Gunn Division I
3)  Lauren Jacob Los Altos Division II
4)  Claire MacMillan San Lorenzo Valley Division IV
5)  Gillian Meeks Gunn Division I
6)  Kendall Hacker St. Ignatius Division II
7)  Yulisa Abundis Aptos Division III
8)  Melissa Reed Mt. View Division I
9)  Clare Peabody Aptos Division III
10)  Hannah Allen Homestead Division I

Did I miss anybody?  Who should move up?  Who should move down?  Who is going to be a big surprise in the fall?

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

Chris Foster should be ranked higher. Melissa Reed should be ranked higher as well. She significantly improved last spring. Julia Bounds (freshman to be at St. Francis) deserves to be high on this list.

Anonymous said...

In regards to the boys rankings...
1) Steven Sum
2)Jose Pina
3)Chris Foster
4)Corey Gonzales
5)Steven Velarde

Scott Edwards was such a wild card this season in track that I don't know where to put him on this list. He's definitely worthy of top 5 though. Steven Sum is the clear #1, Pina and Foster are very close and both aren't afraid of pushing the pace and have decent kicks, Corey Gonzales has really come onto the scene this track season and should definitely be a force in cross country, and Steven Velarde has always been a consistent racer. It'll be interesting to see how things play out this year as the door has been left wide open with all the seniors that are now moving on.

Albert Caruana said...

Good comments so far. I tried to get the ten best runners on the list and their position is definitely up for debate.

I didn't rank Bounds as she has not raced in high school yet. I am well aware of who she is as she competed in our league during middle school. She will definitely be one of the top runners in CCS this coming season.

No doubt that Reed and Foster could be higher.

As for Edwards, he had a slow start to his track season but finished extremely well. He was also the fastest non senior at Woodward Park last year at the state meet. Definitely a top 5 contender.

Did I miss anybody? I think Miles Meijer will be the top runner for Bellarmine and deserves to be mentioned at least.

Anonymous said...

What about Hannah Wood from Presentation? 14th in all of CCS last year with 6 seniors graduating? Shouldn't she be on the list?

Gonzales is going to definitely be a force in cross country. And no doubt Scott Edwards will be another strong runner this season. I am looking forward to see what Steven Sum can do.

Albert Caruana said...

Hannah Wood was definitely one of the names I considered and just missed the top 10. I am not saying I am right but had to cut it down to 10.

Anonymous said...

scott edwards ran like 4:12. thats waaaay better speed than anyone on this list. the kid is ridiculously talented. if he puts in mileage, he'll shoot to the top of the list.

Anonymous said...

Edwards was nowhere near 4:12. Are you from Scotts Valley?

Anonymous said...

Nevermind lol I'm a n00b

Akshay Alaghatta said...

Im sure Hannah Wood will come back strong after recovering from her injury! Props to her for keeping her head up and staying positive

Rob Collins said...

Edwards ran 4:12.55 at the State Track and Field Championships!

Ron Ernst said...

Great list. Foster, Pena, Gonzales, Sum and Brandon Sutton (Homestead) would be my top 5. Hard working great runners. Should be a fun season with loads of talent. Everyone on your lists belonged, hard to narrow it down to 10.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Scott Edwards ran 4:13.42 at State Prelims, then came back the next day at State Finals and ran 4:12.55. However, I don't think a very fast 1600 necessarily translates to a very fast 5k XC. He appears to be significantly better in the 1600. He is certainly one of the top runners in CCS, but I don't think he is better than Steven Sum or Chris Foster.

Albert Caruana said...

Scott Edwards ran 15:45 at the state meet last year which converts to 15:26 on the Crystal Springs course. I understand that fast track times don't always convert to strong xc times but that is not the case here.

Anonymous said...

You must have not been any where near Fresno in June, cause Edwards ran 4:12.55 at State Finals. 4:13 the night B4. I think it was 118 degrees too. I'm not from Scott's Valley, but Ill say Edwards is SICK. Didn't he run 15:44 at Woodward. I think he'll be the 2nd returnee to State in the 1600 to Haney. How many times did any of these guys out kick Estephanos in track this year. Or ever? Seriously. I'd put Edwards way ahead of the field. Not even close. How about Logan Marshall 9:26/ D4 champ. He should 4th. Rebuzzi and Welsh are way too high. Top Bell/Carlmont kids should be up there too.
3 through 9 for girls could go just about any order. 4 girls sub 11:00, a 4:51, and that doesn't even include a 2 time D3 champ.

Anonymous said...

Sorry. I forgot about Rebuzzi's 15:46. He's definitely Top 5. Gonzales and Welsh are way too high. Great track seasons, but that's about it. Miejer should probably be on the list. 9:30's and a low 16:00 at Woodward.
1)Edwards
2)Sum
3)Valverde
4)Rebuzzi
5Marshall
6)Foster
7)Piña
8)Robison
9)Meijer
10)Gonzales

Anonymous said...

The sub-4:30 returnees...

Scott Edwards 4:12.55a Scotts Valley
Steven Sum 4:17.04c Saratoga
James Welsh 4:17.08a Monterey
Steven Velarde 4:21.06a San Benito (Hollister)
Chris Foster 4:21.88a Los Gatos
R.J. Collins 4:21.96a San Benito (Hollister)
Gerardo Castro 4:22.64a El Camino
Corey Gonzales 4:24.26a Harker
Brandon Sutton 4:25.15a Homestead
Cooper Sloan 4:26.14a Homestead
Cody Hulme 4:26.97a Ann Sobrato
Logan Marshall 4:28.05a Half Moon Bay
Edgar Bonilla 4:28.09a King City
Justin Robison 4:28.54a Lynbrook
Jacob Hicks 4:28.75a SLV
Gabe Silveira 4:28.84a Half Moon Bay
Miles Meijer 4:29.02a Bellarmine
Jose Pina 4:29.89a Lincoln

The sub-10:00 returnees...

Steven Sum 9:18.97a Saratoga
Chris Foster 9:21.86a Los Gatos
Jose Pina 9:24.08a Lincoln
Cooper Sloan 9:26.09a Homestead
Logan Marshall 9:26.83a Half Moon Bay
Corey Gonzales 9:28.26a Harker
Ben Haderle 9:40.31a Los Gatos
James Welsh 9:41.01a Monterey
Ryan Dimick 9:43.09a Carlmont
Justin Barry 9:44.18a Bellarmine Prep
Miles Meijer 9:44.54a Bellarmine Prep
Jose Gonzalez 9:46.48a Seaside
Jacob Hicks 9:47.37a SLV
Mark Vingralek 9:47.59a Carlmont
Matt Seidel 9:49.65a Bellarmine Prep
Patrick Olson 9:50.34a Aptos
Ashish Bhusal 9:50.85a Homestead
Edgar Bonilla 9:52.25a King City
Alex Sasser 9:52.40a Bellarmine Prep
Brendan Foti 9:52.94a Sacred Heart Cathedral
Tucker Meijer 9:53.23a Bellarmine Prep
Cody Hulme 9:54.05a Ann Sobrato
Nick Heath 9:54.29a Scotts Valley
R.J. Collins 9:55.31a San Benito (Hollister)
Jacob Loh 9:55.33a Pacific Grove
Steven Velarde 9:56.15a San Benito (Hollister)
Justin Robison 9:56.67a Lynbrook

anonymous at 9:17... I would not put Edwards, "way ahead of the field." Sum has ran a 4:17c, in addition to a 9:18 and him, along with others, will be worthy competition come cross country season. Check out lynbrooksports.com for the State Meet results, CCS only with seniors removed, from last year. That's also a good predictor, but there are always big breakouts like Bereket and Corvese this year that can be a surprise that we don't even know about yet.

Anonymous said...

Sum will not win CCS. There, I've said it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 8:31. Thanks for the list. However, Logan Marshall ran 4:23.71 at PAL Finals for the 1600. 4:28 isn't his PR and I believe Gerardo Castro ran 4:19 at the same meet.

Anonymous said...

Piña will not be any good. Poor kid gets runs at practice, and goes home to his father that gives him another hard workout because he feels that the workout he did at practice wasn't hard enough.
Sum, Foster, EDwards.Are 1,2,3. it's a wild card this year
The outgoing senior class was wanna the best the CCS has seen in years.

Anonymous said...

Glad the talk is on the more elite boys. The obsession on the teenage girls on this site from grown men is creepy.

That said Piña isn't the first to figure things out a little later.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 10:15am... His situation is exactly the same as so many other athletes... twice a day workouts are not bad at all. That's what makes many runners strong. Pina has proven himself... in track he did a mid 9:20 something and was mixing it up with Ho, Vasquez, Corvese, Garibay etc. on the track at the BVAL 3200, along with improving from last year.

There seems to be A LOT of discrepancy on this site with athletes who also train outside of their high school. A few months ago I remember one runner was bashed because he trained with a club in addition to his high school. Why the hate? Is it because you are the coaches and feel that clubs are taking your athletes away from you? Jealousy? I don't get it. What most of you DON'T realize is that, while many high schools have great coaches, even more have coaches that are simply teachers at the school who fill in, people who have no idea about running, or people like Bob De la Cruz, who just do it for the money and doesn't care about how his teams do (6 schools coaching in 5 years...nuff said)

ANYWAY... Pina will be good, at the very least improving again from last year. Just watch. And please keep the talking positive, with no bashing on runners. They just want to run (and hopefully win too).

Anonymous said...

To each his own. Ive heard Sum never runs more than 5 miles, and Pina does that 3 time a day. Piña will not be any good? I'd say so far so good. I guess a 2:30 drop in 5K since 8th grade isnt good enough? What's your kid running?

How is foster top 3? He didn't even make CCS finals in the 3200, or State in XC. Very good runner, but probably bottom 3.

Steven Sum is badass, but I've seen him get chased down from behind, quite a few times.
If you've seen the same races I've seen, Edwards would outkick Sum 99 out of 100 times. Most of the others too. 15:44/4:12.55. It's not even close. 4:12.55 to 4:17??? It's not even close.
Ill bet Sum wins D3 this year for sure, but he better put some distance on the final stretch or they'll be kids coming after him. Just like this year. El Camino kid is a strong WC. 4:19/1:55 double at CCS finals.

We focus on the girls cause they are insane.
The girls side has way more talent than the boys. There is no arguing that any of those girls couldn't probably be Top 5.
Maybe the best field ever. Much respect to 1985 and 2012. Stay healthy ladies. Can't wait for Serra. I hope we get to see Robinson full time again.

Anonymous said...

the reality is that this list doesn't matter a whole lot seeing as most of these kids won't race against each other. I can however, firmly say that Scott Edwards is the best runner in the ccs. but he's not as talented as I feel like a lot of people think of him as, he just genuinely has a LOT of guts, both in training and in races. but those guts won't do him a whole lot when he doesn't have much to race against until state. end of discussion. as far as girls, Peabody is definitely better than abundis. I can't say what, but she had a certain condition all during last cross season that she was able to fix for track season, and it showed. she could race for D3 title honestly

Anonymous said...

I want to know how Zaeske and Robinson made the list. There are many other runners who have much better pr's than both of them. Take Justin Barry and Ryan Dimick for example. Low 9:40's and low 4:30's and much better XC times. How are Zaeske and Robinson ranked ahead of guys like that?

Anonymous said...

In regards to 10:20AM. The fascination with the girls isn't because they are teenage girls, it's because CCS has some of the 'most TALENTED' distance runners in the country. It just happens to be that they are girls. I think you are creepy for looking at it in any other way!

Nils said...

One more comment re: girls, I don't know about the rest of you but I see the outstanding performance of the top runners as a sign that there's enormous unrealized potential among the girls. It's really inspiring to see someone, or a whole team, get the coaching and have the attitude to really train and run their best. By paying attention to these performers, I think we help put a spotlight on an area where there can be enormous improvement.

Anonymous said...

Another comment regarding the CCS girls:
The Lynbrook site lists 26 performances by girls added to (or moving up) on the all-time top 100 CCS rankings (800, 1600, 3200) and 10 boys for the boys. Why is it creepy to recognize and applaud their achievements? Anyone who considers that as creepy is either a creep themselves or a sexist!

hank said...

It's harder to get on the CCS Top 100 list (800 on up) for guys because they've been competing longer than the gals. Girls started in '76 I believe and there are guys on the list from the early 40's. So in 2043 I would expect it to be harder for the girls to make the All-Time list (but I still plan on tracking the marks).

hank

Anonymous said...

I agree that it is harder to make the guys list, but you have to admit that this last year the girls have ranked higher nationally than the boys. I'm thinking: Maxwell, Hiltz, Robinson and Peabody-all sub 4:50 1600 runners. That is pretty impressive!

Anonymous said...

Anyone who does not believe that boys in general have more depth top to bottom is blind. Look at any men's race and how packed together and how fast the girls race spreads out. That's just one year.

As already said its just harder to make the boys list. Not taking anything away from the girls, they are very good. But it is good to hear more balanced discussion.

And I have seen many coach focus more on the girls team. Probably for many reasons, such as it is easier to be successful than at the boys level.

That plus some creepy stuff too.

Anonymous said...

Not taking anything away from boys, but let me know when 5 of them qualify for the 1600 finals at state, in a decade, let alone one year, and CCS goes 1,2,3.
For whatever reason, the gals are miles ahead of the boys around here. I think most coaches would say its much more of a challenge to keep the girls healthy on a yearly basis than the boys. This was a historic year for the ladies. 2013/14 may be even better. Who cares about our reason for commenting on the girls. Why don't you just spill the beans about all the creepy stuff you've seen. I'd argue that most of the girls who made the list will remain high on it for 100 years. This was the deepest year in section history, and not even close for the boys. I would be fair to say that this is one of CCS's weakest returning class for the boys top to bottom. It doesn't matter if they all run together.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure you will disagree but running 4:08 (which none of you even mentioned despite being #6 all time in ccs) is much harder for a boy than 4:42 as a girl. Now the girls you are mentioning here are on another level, we agree on that, but in general girls are less competitive and the field has less depth. Top girls should be running 2:02, 4:35, 9:50 every year. Top boys are running 4 flat, a 4:40 for females is a lesser equivalent. Fact is more percentage of boys do sports thus its just harder. Nothing wrong with that. But you all are obsessed with the ladies, which as already been said is probably because it is easier to be successful.
If you want me to call out what Ive seen I can but don't think it's appropriate here. But things like massaging girls and ignoring the guys can get you in hot water now days.

Anonymous said...

Top girls should be running 2:02, 4:35, 9:50 EVERY YEAR? Massaging the girls and ignoring the boys?
"...you all are obsessed with the ladies.." ??? I think someone should look in the mirror!

Nils said...

One other question about boys vs girls is the competition of various sports for the top athletes. At the school my son attends, volleyball gets many top female athletes in the fall because they're ranked very high- but for the boys there's no football for various reasons, so fewer boys are drawn away from XC. I don't know if that's true across NCS nor if it contrasts with CCS, but it's one thing that could happen. If girls XC is really the top girls fall sport for many CCS teams, that would explain *some* of the CCS dominance.

Anonymous said...

Why should the girls be running national records every year? So the boys should be running 1:47/3:58/8:40 every year if they were trying? I dont see the boys in CCS even comming close to sub 4:10 every year. Let alone multiple people running it while winning State Finals like Maxewell and Hiltz. I'm not sure what any of this is about. Now we're disrespecting Miguel's HUGE season because its not mentioned in a thread about returning CCS runners. I'd definitely put him #1 waaaay ahead of Edwards, and he's got to be a favorite for the podium at state. The 5th year of expirience is going to be key.

I think this ia a totally appropriate place to drop all your anonymous facts. Why bring em up in the first place? You've already enlightened us on how much easier to coach the gals, even though the boys are more competitive. Do dish. Who's in hot water?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 9:28 you're funny but Miguel is moving on to UC Riverside and competing in the NCAA. No 5th year of high school. I give you a 1/10 for your troll effort. Not very believable.

Anonymous said...

Somehow this has turned into a boy versus girl debate. It started with some idiot stating that he thought "The obsession on the teenage girls on this site from grown men is creepy." Both the boys and the girls deserve attention. There is nothing creepy about the attention the girls receive except in the mind of that individual who also inferred some sort of perversion on the part of someone he observed massaging girls. (I assume that it was the same poster.)

Anonymous said...

There's a lot of inconsistency on the Boys side, except for Larger schools. Reason Football takes a Huge hunk out of Smaller Programs, then you have Water Polo getting much into club sports throughout year. For example if you have a Student Body of 800 and split that in 400 on the Boys side and anywhere from 130 to 150 are out for Football then anywhere from 30 to 50 kids in water polo there goes half of your boys student body then your scraping for Boys! Girls on the other hand usually fight club soccer and smaller sports based on Numbers some coaches are stepping up for the Ultimatum so they can build a team! Larger schools have much better success and consistency because they have more to grab from. Programs like Albert's who fight those situation on numbers do well in there respected divisions! CCS is Quite Small compared to other section but does Quite well!

Anonymous said...

...SO HOW ABOUT THAT STEVEN SUM KID?

Anonymous said...

Clare Peabody ran sub 4:50 for the 1600 this last track season. She had a subpar xc season last year, but a good one the year before. Whatever her problem was last xc season has obviously been taken care of. She should have another great season, may be their #1 runner again.

Anonymous said...

... Ever heard of Steven Sum?

Anonymous said...

Um... ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Anonymous said...

why cant we be friends?! why can we be frieeeends?!

Anonymous said...

I thought we were friends!

Jon T. said...

What about Cate Ratliff? The sophomore from Santa Cruz High? She got second at Early Bird and she dominated Westmoor Invitational. I'd say she's definitely one to watch

Anonymous said...

Under dog alert to Sophomore girl Jacqueline Escalera (Fremont) jj? Last year she qualified for state, could have been top 3 at ccs if she had run a smarter race. Slower this year, but still someone to watch out for. and kevin bishop's little sister Kelly (monta VIsta) look out.

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