Monday, March 26, 2012

Top Nor Cal Distance Runners taking all distances into consideration

As posted in a comment below.  Check out the list by a visitor to this site.  Who is missing?  Who should move up or down?  Thoughts?

Boys:
1. Luna Piner HS (NCS)
2. Bishop Monta Vista HS (CCS)
3. Joyce Campolindo HS (NCS)
4. Davis Valley Christian SJ HS (CCS)
5. Brazeal Buchanan HS (CS)

Girls:
1. Maxwell San Lorenzo Valley HS (CCS)
2. Hiltz Aptos HS (CCS)
3. Verdon Campolindo HS (NCS)
4. Sturges Mt. View HS (CCS)
5. Fraser Scotts Valley HS (CCS) / Robinson Gunn HS (CCS)

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think Carrie Verdon should be #1 on the list. I predict she'll win the Girls' 3200 at State, beating Sarah Baxter and others. She could even win the 1600 if she were to switch gears and run that race at the end of the season. I might add Karlie Garcia on that list somewhere.

Anonymous said...

God this is so hard...
Boys:
1. Luis Luna, Piner NCS
2. CJ Albertson, Buchanan CS (if CS is even NorCal, which is up for debate)
3t. Kevin Bishop and Chris Waschura, Monta Vista and Woodside CCS
5. Thomas Joyce, Campolindo NCS
Honorable Mention:
Cody Brazeal, Sean Davis, Cody Johnson

Girls:
1. Carrie Verdon, Campolindo NCS
2. Anna Maxwell, SLV CCS
3. Nikki Hiltz, Aptos CCS
4. Allison Sturges, Mtn. View CCS
5. Karlie Garcia, Oakmont SJS
Honorable Mention: Vanessa Fraser, Sarah Robinson

Anonymous said...

How about Bayliss of San Ramon? 5:10 and 10:52

Anonymous said...

Novell of Granada with 5:00 and 11:00 marks

Anonymous said...

1. Fresno is Nor Cal. Slo and Bakersfield is not.
2. Maxwell is by far better than Verdon right now. Better times in 800, 1600 and only tenths behind in the 3200.
3. Hiltz is best in 1600, the darling if track and field after the 100 meters.
4. What has Garcia done to be worthy of a top 5?
5. If you saw last year's state meet or Arcadia you know Baxter is in a league of her own. As proven by winning Nxn. Verdon had to kick her butt off to move from 10th to 3rd in a pack no where near the win. Baxter would need to be sick or injured to lose.
6. Wascura is # 6 or 7 right now. He'll turn it on, probably end up #1 but we are talking about right now.

Anonymous said...

Not making the list unless you are sub 5...

Anonymous said...

Win the mile? What in 4:30 something. She doesn't have the raw speed to sustain such a pace. Look at 800 pr's for that.

You all in chuck's army are so biased it's funny sometimes. Can't handle someone better than the campo crew.

Albert Caruana said...

For the purposes of this site, I have broken up California by sections. That means the sections in NorCal are Northern Section, Sac Joaquin Section, North Coast Section, Central Coast Section, San Francisco and Oakland. That is also how the NorCal XC teams have been determined. The poster who put together the original list had Brazeal in his list so I included him as well.

If you include all three distances (800 through 3200) that might eliminate a few runners. Are there any runners that could potentially qualify in all three distances from their section? I don't mean triple but just simply in any of the 3 events.

Albert Caruana said...

I don't believe there is a Chuck's army (I could be wrong) but the reason for the love for Campolindo is just a lot of NCS posters. No biggie.

As for Baxter, has she lost a hs race yet?

Anonymous said...

the beauty of all this is that the best in NorCal have proven beyond a doubt that they can compete with the best in SoCal, which is more than almost any past year can say (that im aware of; i'm young, so my memory doesn't stretch back very far). i would not be surprised to see a NorCal victory, even multiple victories, in a distance race at state this year, which hasn't happened, i think, since German. pretty cool, if you ask me!

Anonymous said...

Not a Campo fan but you do need to give them props esp Joyce. With that huge run last weekend (1600 puts him in the top 4 or 5 in the State), and that 3200 @ 9:16 is also way up there. For these reasons I'm inclined to say he shares #1 with Luna.

Still thinking about the girls, but just for kicks, does anyone recall the incredible year Nicole Hood had as a freshman? 4:55:90 1600.

Anonymous said...

German was not nor cal according to albert's post above. He is so cal baby!!!!

You all wish you were as good as the south!!!!

Albert Caruana said...

German ran in the SJS which is clearly in NorCal.

Anonymous said...

Where's the hot meets this week?

Anonymous said...

Verdon moved up from 10th to 3rd at state meet last year and she was sick. I think she could have beat Baxter last year. I would rank her #1.

Kevin said...

@anonymous 9:11PM:
West Coast Relays at Buchanan will be one to watch:

3200m entrants:
CJ Albertson
Danny Martinez
Blake Haney
Cameron Miller
Kevin Bishop
Trevor Furhiman
Parker Deuel

1600m entrants:
Sean Davis
CJ Albertson
Parker Deuel
Cody Brazeal
Myles Smith
Cameron Miller

800m entrants:
Cody Brazeal
Chris Waschura
Darrell Jackson
Trevor Holmgren
Sebastian Cruz
Blake Haney

Loaded.

Anonymous said...

Joyce's 4:10 is absolutely incredible and should put him higher on the list. For someone who can barely break 2 in the 800, a 4:10 mile is simply phenomenal. Luna is obviously the biggest two mile stud out there right now, and is looking to go under 855 in the postseason.

Anonymous said...

Even tho they're not on the top 5 list- here are some more NCS guys to keep an eye on---
Parker Deuel (any if the distances...)
Nick Ratto (800)
Jamie Fehrnstrom (miler)
Trevor Fuhriman (miler)
John Lawson (distance double)
NCS meet of champions is going to be so exciting on the distance side!

NCSfanboy said...

I hope we can have another one of these lists out after Arcadia or something. It will be interesting to see who runs what in events they havent competed in yet. Specificaly with sarah baxter, i think she is more than capable than running faster than her current season pr in the 3200 (10:44), and there are a couple girls that I think will definitely be in contention for a spot on this list once they run the other events. (In particular, Jena Pianin from Amador Valley who clocked a 10:41 (7 secondPR) at Dan Gabor, and Karlie Garcia who has been off the radar a little at this point but is surely biding her time until a big meet)

Anonymous said...

My guess is if healthy Baxter will be sub 10:10 at Arcadia, and go for sub 10 at state. I don't see anyone at that level this year.

EBAL Fan said...

Holmgren looked good in last week's EBAL tri-meet, beating Amador's sub-50 runner Slaton in the 400 and then coming back and beating Amador's sophomore McKinnon in the 800 in 1:57 mid to McKinnon's 1:57 high. Tough double, and he pulled it off over some good runners from AV. Speaking of McKinnon, he'll be looking to prove something in that invitational 800 at West Coast Relays also. Oh and Schmierer ran 1:56 in the other tri-meet.

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. I thought that Sarah Baxter was in So. Cal?

NCSfanboy said...

Holmgren has really stepped up this year. After a couple tough seasons he's at least getting the Senior track season he's been waiting for. As for McKinnon, I think we will be seeing great things out of this kid. 1:58 and 2nd at EBAL finals last year as a freshman is no small feat, and 1:57 this early into his sophomore year is a sign of big things to come. After already splitting sub-50 this year, he'll also be in contention for a spot on Amador Valley's covetted 4x400 team.

Anonymous said...

Re: Verdon. I believe Baxter is undefeated, but is she beatable? Hard to say, but remember Hasay/Chetelat in 2008? 19 seconds separated them in 2007 and then in 2008 there was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP1X-Y-BiPg
Granted, Hasay still pulled it off, but Chetelat ran 9:52!!
Every now and then an underdog has a good day. Just a hunch this will happen June 2. Hunches are what make predictions fun, right? Don't know Chuck and never been to Campolindo. Just a fan of the sport.

Alvaro said...

Sam Kane of Bishop O'Dowd might be worth a look. 1.55.9 in the 800 and a 4.17.2 in the 1600. He could surprise some people.

Anonymous said...

EBAL 800 is stacked this year - Deuel, Furhman, Holmgren, Sickler all around 1:56 or better...and a whole bunch at around 158 and getting faster (McKinnon, Wilke, Hardy and perhaps a couple more)

EBAL 800M championship s/b fantastic

Andrew said...

wow, the West Coast Relays races look very competitive! I can't wait to see those times.

As for rankings, I don't think they are quite as plausible in track given the different distances. I appreciate the effort by whoever did them, but there is just no way to tell and it won't even really matter since some of the runners will never face each other (Luna vs Sean Davis for example).

They're fun, but they make much more sense during cross country. I think if rankings are done they need to be by event.

NCSfanboy said...

@7:12

I think you might mean Schmierer(sp) from livermore. And McKinnon ran 1:57 last week. It will indeed be an interesting 800 final at EBAL.

And as for the rankings by event, I think that would just be a performance list. Some runners may never race each other, however, some runners are formidable in all 3 distance events and it's fun to try to rank them accordingly.

Anonymous said...

Personally I enjoy the idea of ranking top distance runners for all three events. It's fun and is great to hear thoughts on who's the best for the three distance events.

A list is a list not much to it. Most finishes don't end up the same order now do they.