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Saturday, June 03, 2017

99th CIF State Meet review

WOW! So many different thoughts now that the meet is over. I will have more in the next couple of days but for now, feel free to comment below on any of the events, performances etc.

If anybody doubts what is the best state meet in the country, please!

As always an excellent recap by Darren Sabedra of SJ Mercury News at this LINK.

I also posted this on twitter but as far as the distance races go, here are the NorCal podium finishers for Northern California.

Girls 1600-1, 2 and 4
Boys 1600-1, 4 and 5
Girls 800-1, 2 and 4
Boys 800-1, 2 and 4
Girls 3200-2 and 4
Boys 3200-2, 3 and 4

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jorge Estrella's podium finish was a great end to a great season. He improved at every stage of the season. Not many managed to PR in the state final as he did.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to all of the Norcal runners..they represented big time. Especially props to Owen Woo (sorry I'm bias for SMB) who has improved big time from last year. Go Panthers.

Jennifer Charvet said...

Jett Charvet winning the 800 meters was a surprise to everyone except those that know him and train him.

Hank said...

Jorge's mark puts him #31 All-Time on the CCS Top 100 list.

hank

Anonymous said...

I was hoping that McIntosh would upset Brewer in the G800M. I think she started her kick a bit late, otherwise it may have happened. It will be interesting to see how Brewer and McIntosh progress over the next year. Both have a sprinter background (200, 400), but McIntosh ran XC last fall for the first time, with some success. Any coaches on here have an opinion to whether XC helps 800M runners?

Albert Caruana said...

Of course cross country helps 800 meter runners. Except for Brewer, what other 800 meter medalists didn't run in the fall?

Anonymous said...

Very good year for North Cal. Big props to all the athletes and coaches on a great season.

Anonymous said...

When Dixon Farmer interviewed Jett Charvett after he won the 800 on the infield he asked him wwhat is next for him he said get ready for Cross Country.

Anonymous said...

Now that the T&F season is over, is there a website that have a list of college choices for the seniors? I couldn't find it on Prepcaltrack.com. I thought when Rich Gonzales use to provide such a list.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Nor Cal will be given more state entries with so much success, maybe 4 entries per event instead of 3.......

Albert Caruana said...

Each section have their own automatic entries to the state meet so success by multiple sections in Northern California will not add automatic entries to any specific section. Unfortunately, NCS lost one entry a few years ago and I don't see that section ever regaining that one bid.

Anonymous said...

Very pleased to see Grijalva win the 1,600 and come back for the runner-up spot in the 3,200. I didn't think it was a great idea, but the strategic pace of the first 2,400 or so worked in his favor and he made a solid run at the distance double. Respect to Teare, Grijalva, Bolger and Vernau for never shying from competition and showing the younger guys what it takes to compete at the highest levels. The future is bright for distance running in NorCal.

Coach Ozzie said...

Watching Charvet over the last few weeks at NCS Tri-Valley and NCS MOC, he was my wildcard in the race after scratching the 1600m. He is clearly very strong, has the willingness to go out fast and has the wheels to finish a race. To be honest, I didn't think anyone was beating Scales if Scales was at his best as watching him run at Arcadia, he looked like a guy destined to tick under 1:50 and maybe by a good bit. When Charvet made his big move with 300m to go, my first reaction was, "too early", which judging by the reaction of everyone else in the field, his competitors agreed. That move proved to be the winning move though as even though Charvet slowed in the last 100m, he had created such a gap that no one could make it up. And his time of 1:51.07 was impressive. Very impressive race. Very impressive season.

Albert Caruana said...

Some college choices:
http://ca.milesplit.com/signings

CoachTri said...

I 've noticed the addition of the para-events and wonder how much time they added to the meet? Wasn't that the reason why 4x8 and 4x200 have never been added because it would add too much time?

Anonymous said...

There is a college choice on dyestat too! Can it be posted here or is that off limit, since it is a competitor to Prepcaltrack? Wondering which one is more up to date. Dyestat is much easier to read.

Albert Caruana said...

You are welcome to post any link that you would like on this site. I believe people are very capable of visiting more than one site to find information about our two sports.

Anonymous said...

4x800 could be a final only on Friday. Same as 4x200. The para-events was cool when it was one heat of the 60 meters but has taken over the meet. And some events only had 2 entries.

Anonymous said...

AC,

Thanks for your comments. I belong to other messageboards (non track) and when I post a competitor story, I am told not too.

here is dyestat's college choice link
http://www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531&do=news&news_id=431929

Anonymous said...

Seems top 10 performers (IMO) is bias for SS athletes. Maybe the top 4 for sure since they were double or triple state winners but though Iffy Joyner should had made the list for winning the discus (PR) and also PR by almost 3 ft in SP coming in 5th. Think Jonah Wilson was expected to win.

Albert Caruana said...

I put the list together and certainly don't think I am biased toward the Southern Section. I tried as much as I can lean toward athletes that performed highly in more than one event. Iffy's discus victory was certainly one of the high points for NorCal athletes. It's very tough to narrow it down to just a few athletes and there are definitely athletes that could have potentially made the list like Sean Lee, Iffy Joyner, Sanjay Kettles etc.

Anonymous said...

My apologies didn't see the author of the article. Thought it was prepared by Rich Gonzales.

Albert Caruana said...

No apology necessary. Appreciate the feedback.

Anonymous said...

Is it too early to start talking about XC?

Albert Caruana said...

Not too early at all. Let's hear it.

Anonymous said...

As far as XC it could be an interesting rebuild-type couple of years in the NCS distance distance events/XC given that very few underclassman boys made 800/1600/3200 finals this past track season (Liam Anderson obviously a very fine exception).

Anonymous said...

According to MileSplit the top 4 CCS 3M and 5K returning guys come from the same league. With the new transfer rules, is it possible for the CCS to put together a super team of the 5 best runners to go up against the SS? If they did, how well would they do at state?

Anonymous said...

WBAL? They had 3 of the top 5 at CCS. Who you talking about?

Anonymous said...

If it's returners, then it would be WCAL.

Anonymous said...

WCAL only had 2 qualifiers in every distance race. Weather excuse or not they are definitely in a downslope. WBAL outperformed them this year without question.

Anonymous said...

Um I think he is talking about the XC season. I'm not sure how Mika, Scales, Kumar, and Colonna are seen as the downslope. Both Bell and SF will go into the year as the favorites to repeat as CCS champs. How is that a down year for the WCAL, again?

Anonymous said...

What are the new transfer rules?

Anonymous said...

While I do recognize the clear dominance of the WBAL, I'd also like to point out the strength of the "second-place" PSAL, who looked very strong and well-represented at CCS.

Anonymous said...

In brief, the new CIF transfer rule allows a change of school without a change of address, even if athletically motivated, without sitting out for a year. So the question is, would athletes collude to change schools for the purpose of creating a super team to win state?

Anonymous said...

Collusion to build super teams has been going on for quite some time now. It happens at the club level, and up until now only a handful of schools could benefit. They take up most of the team spots for CCS to state, and still aren't good enough to compete with the SS teams. That's why there's all the complaining about division school size decrepancies at the state level. The problem is you can't just go to one of these schools with a simple transfer and no $$$. I'd imagine the new rule would benefit more public school teams like LG, WG, or Paly because they're free and there's still no way to collude around those AQ spots in track.

Anonymous said...

A quick perusal of the Athletic.net top track marks by grades clearly shows that the WCAL will not be down next season in XC. As always, there will be many great runners from all the Leagues, and the WBAL returns at least two of the top track runners in the section (Miranda and Medearis), but the WBAL doesn't have much depth beyond CSUS, and St. Francis is the most loaded XC team in CCS, and I wolud not count out BCP on any level regardless of track marks. The rest of the WCAL is down compared to years past, though both Riordan and SHC seem to have a lot of returners, perusing XC results from last season on Athletic.net...I, for one, can't wait for XC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The good or bad in XC is most of the students on this thread won't compete often. That's the bad. The good is both WCAL and WBAL individuals should be very competitive at state level. Meika, Scales, Colonna, others d1, Miranda d4, Medearis d5?

Anonymous said...

@8:49 It is one thing for an incoming frosh to figure out where they want to go to school, even if they consider the running program; it is an entirely different story for a junior or senior to transfer because he or she targets a program that needs one more piece to get them to state or to win at state. I would not call the frosh example collusion at all, but there is potential for it in the latter example. Is this a bad thing?

Anonymous said...

I would add Kumar SF, and Walker WG to the list of individuals from CCS. SF and WG are D2 so they are positioned better to compete against the SS teams at state. Not looking like a down year for the CCS at all to me.

Anonymous said...

@8:49 I have heard a few times about these club teams feeding HS teams. Can you give a few examples so we know what you are referencing?

Anonymous said...

@6:52
This has been hashed and rehashed here. It's not true. There are some examples of club teammates/friends that have chosen the same private schools, but they weren't recruited or fed to the schools. There are many more examples of the club runners continuing on to their local public school.

Anonymous said...

There are coaches at the club level who also work within the private school system. They encourage top athletes to go to these schools, and then facilitate the entire application process including setting up shadow days with former top athletes. That's a little more than just a few friends deciding to go to the same school.

Anonymous said...

@10:12
I do not know one coach at a private school who also runs a track club. Please name just one example.

Anonymous said...

how about starting a list of incoming freshmen (2017-2018) for XC. Will have a major impact in the XC season.

Anonymous said...

This coach is at the juniorr high level. You don't have to look very far in the old JO results to see that one club is sending a large percentage of it's top athletes to one school in particular. Legal or not. Don't say it's not happening.

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