Tuesday, August 21, 2018
CIF Sac-Joaquin Section divisions now posted
Posted by Albert Caruana at 8/21/2018 09:15:00 PM
Labels: 2018 Cross Country
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a revision has been posted.
The revision has been posted. What changes were made so I don't have to go back and compare the two versions?
Comparing the two versions:
West from D2 to D1.
Rocklin from D1 to D2.
Are these official enrollment numbers, or just estimates from the school(s)?
I see my daughter's school listed and it was not the number reported by the principal when they couldn't take anymore students from out of district. So not sure why they are in such a low division.
Final question, would there be penalties for schools that underreport their numbers??
August 22, 2018 9:39 PM
You must mean Vista Del Lago, they are over 1840 and yet they somehow have an even 1800, exactly 1800. This means it is easier to win D3, CIFSJS should fix this, but they won't. They need the good performance.
From the SJS Constitution.
School Enrollment
a. School enrollment is based on the present year enrollment report and one projected year.
b. Enrollment of a school comprised entirely of the students of the same gender will be doubled.
c. A three-year school’s enrollment will be increased by doubling the size of its sophomore class.
d. A margin of 100 shall be allowed above or below the actual figures in determining enrollment
placement.
e. No school will be permitted to petition to change its classification to a lower classification than its enrollment classification although it may be in a higher classification.
If you think ADs are going to fudge numbers to win a XC title...come on.
Albert,
VDL- 2nd Place at CIF State D3 last year. Come on.... I would try and stay in D3 too.
VDL was 2nd at state last year in D3 and the LCC girls are D2 this year, so . . . What amazes me is how the numbers just seem to 'work out'. Of course it is in the interest of the SJS to have high placers at state so as many as possible qualifying slots for future teams are available. We don't want the fiasco that we had a few years back when Jesuit did not make it to state in D1 and could have likely won the D2 section title that year and represented the SJS at state in D2. That was when 25% of schools went to D1, not the current 20%.
C'mon Albert! You know the ADs are fudging those numbers for XC! HA!
VDL was 2nd at state last year in D3 and the LCC girls are D2 this year, so . . . What amazes me is how the numbers just seem to 'work out'. Of course it is in the interest of the SJS to have high placers at state so as many as possible qualifying slots for future teams are available. We don't want the fiasco that we had a few years back when Jesuit did not make it to state in D1 and could have likely won the D2 section title that year and represented the SJS at state in D2. That was when 25% of schools went to D1, not the current 20%.
The teams or school or ADs do not know where the cutoffs are for each division and section. I think it's insulting to accuse teams of cheating to be in a certain division.
I know in CCS, the CBEDs are determined by the previous school year so that might be the difference between the two numbers.
The post above already gave you your answer.
"a. School enrollment is based on the present year enrollment report and one projected year.
d. A margin of 100 shall be allowed above or below the actual figures in determining enrollment placement."
Thanks for posting the rules. Yes i also saw that from the principal's email that enrollment at VDL was 1840, so according to the rules they are abiding.
I agree with Albert. Data always looks suspicious to some part of the audience. They are within the rules, so move on.
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