Interesting that the Gunn HS girls will be competing in Division I while their boys will be competing in Division II.
What other prominent teams moved up or down from last season?
Just checked with the CCS office and the above numbers are confirmed. In regards to Gunn being in different divisions:
Under the new provisions for placing schools in divisions it is very possible for girls and boys to be in different divisions, especially since we have several all-boys and all-girl schools. This was acknowledged and discussed at the various levels of governance in the section but balancing the number of schools in each division (other than D5) became the number 1 focus.
Friday, July 10, 2009
2009 CCS XC CBEDs posted below
Posted by Albert Caruana at 7/10/2009 10:20:00 AM
Labels: 2009 Track and Field, CCS Rankings '09
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If Gunn is a mixed school where the number of boys/girls is pretty even, then how can the girls be in D1 and the boys in D2??
The simple answer is that Bellarmine and Serra are all boys schools in Division I and there are no equivalent schools for the girls that would push the Gunn girls down to Division II as well.
Even so, D1 for the boys has 23 schools and D1 for the girls now has 24 schools (that means there has to be some equivalence). That doesn't make sense. If it should be even, then if Gunn was in D2 it would be 23-23.
There are more girls-only schools (7) than boys-only schools (4) and 4 of the girls only schools are in DIV.
The people above have a point. There really wasn't a point in moving Gunn up, considering the girls in D1 now have more schools there than the guys. Besides, isn't it just kind of trivial? Gunn was fine in D2. Of course, this effects the girls a lot more since they have a powerhouse team...
One point that hasn't been made is that the divisions are for cross country and other sports (such as volleyball). You can't just look at it solely as a xc issue.
Personally, I think it's silly that Gunn has their boys and girls in different divisions but I am sure the CCS didn't make this move haphazardly.
Look again at the divisions. For boys D1-23, D2-23, D3-23, D4-23. Since there are 3 more schools with girls than boys, for girls D1-24, D2-24, D3-24, D4-23. The comparison isn't between D1 boys and D1 girls, but rather D1 with the other divisions for each gender.
This totally screws up the rankings though. Especially since D1 only sends over 2 teams, and Gunn is definitely a powerhouse team (compared to D2 getting the chance to send 3)... well I guess you just have to live with it, but if I were on Gilroy etc. I wouldn't be too happy about this... Gunn is returning a really good group next year though, so I guess a Carlmont/Gunn showdown would be great. It's just silly that the girls/boys teams are in different divisions now... this doesn't just screw it up for CCS, but other meets like Stanford etc.
Could this ever change back? Gunn doesn't even meet the requirement of 2000+, I'd say being 50+ away from that is pretty significant.
That's a shame that between Carlmont, Gilroy, and Gunn, one of these teams won't go to the state meet.
Such is life in Division I in CCS and NCS. It's top 2 or bust. Until we can send teams that can do well at the state meet, I can't see either section getting more than two teams in the state meet. It's definitely the toughest division for the NorCal teams. Most teams that get Division I status in this area are not really Division I teams based on their size when you compare them to the SS teams.
The solution to that problem is to align ourselves with the SS divisional breakdown. In the short term, we will lose 1 or possibly both D1 spots, but in the long term I think we will gain back those 2 spots and more in D2 and D3 spots. Once we are competing on a level playing field, we will get MANY more top 10 team finishes, which is what determines how many spots a section receives.
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