Saturday, October 10, 2020

Northern California Time Trial Results

Granada HS (September 26)
http://diablotiming.com/results/2020-09-26/

College Park HS (October 9)
http://diablotiming.com/results/2020-10-09/

Campolindo HS (October 10)
https://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Results/Meet.aspx?Meet=183312&show=all

De La Salle HS/Jesuit HS (October 10)
https://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/meet/179286/results/733043

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just wondering ( seriously ) What are the school/Section/State rules on having an organised practice with the coaches when schools are closed and then you know, Pandemic? Of course I know people are training and racing ( as Newbury Park, Great Oak and Bellarmine ran today as clubs in Arizona.
Are any offical rules in place regarding practice?

Albert Caruana said...

Teams are allowed to practice provided they follow proper protocols. It is also possible for teams to have practices while the school is distance learning since running outdoors while social distancing is different than being at school indoors.

Anonymous said...

From the perspective of the CIF and local Sections, "summer training" rules are in effect. So teams may practice as long as they're also following State and County health guidelines.

Anonymous said...

Per the state conditioning only is allowed. Masks, social distancing & no equipment allowed in 12-1 pods. No coach or athlete is allowed to socialize or switch pods. So a coach can NOT do one pod in the morning and another in the afternoon. If an athlete drops you can not add new people for 4 weeks. No competition is allowed even against your own team.

As for if this is allowed that is up to the district and the liability they are willing to accept. Some have said no conditioning or meeting in person, others allow it.

As for Great Oak they are likely not in compliance as evidenced by their social media posts. Those who walk up to and cross the line on occasion are not the standard to compare yourself too. For us personally our union said if we do not follow the guidelines by the district we can lose our jobs and are not protected. Personally going against the state and district guidelines to get a slight advantage isn’t worth risking my job or pension. Others may be willing to take that risk but not me.

pmccrystle said...

Bellarmine didn't run a club team in Arizona. Some Bellarmine students ran, but not in any affiliation with Bellarmine or our XC program; they ran with a club team out of Menlo.

Schools, districts, counties, dioceses, are all at different places with what they are allowing programs to do, academically, athletically, and other co-curricular programs. At Bellarmine, we actually have a few classes which are being held in a hybrid fashion, with 10-12 students in person and the rest of the class on line. Some students are coming on campus after school for socially distanced community service projects--preparing meals, etc. for agencies like Sacred Heart Community Services, etc.--and some student athletes are coming on to campus for 12 person, socially distanced conditioning sessions...not practice, just trying to give students a chance to exercise in an organized way. It's all 100% within the county and city rules.

I know of some school that are able to do more than us, and i know of some schools that can't do anything yet, and are waiting for clearance to workout. Hopefully, the nuumbrs will continue to improve and everyone will be able to get back to learning and training in a more normal fashion...hoping against hope!!

Albert Caruana said...

This is my own opinion but I think that cross country coaches follow the guidelines better than any other coaches regardless of sport. Many of us are also teachers at the schools we coach at and none of us are willing to risk losing our main jobs over one of our athletes running a few seconds faster.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it,the good teams are training, They are working out in some fashion with the coaches input in some way. I personally saw about 40 kids running last week ( no pods of 12 ) running down the street, near a local high school. Pat you are saying you are waiting for clearance to workout? I assume you mean has the official Bells team and not the club Kids that just ran in Arizona.I know you are not saying those kids have not been working out and are just getting a chance to exercise :-)

Anonymous said...

If I saw 40 kids all running in direct violation is state health department I would call the school, school board & health department. I may get flak for this but my parents are high risk due to just finishing their last cancer treatment. Don’t do this, be smart. You may be fine, but someone’s parents may not be.

Anonymous said...

CIF stated that kids can run for their club teams and that is what everyone is doing. Those that have a club team that is. Everyone knows what is going on and CIF just wanted to shift responsibility. If they are running for their club team, then it's the problem of USATF or AAU and CIF is off the hook. The problem is that most coaches out there that are taking their teams to meets and holding practices have no concept of liability insurance. They haven't actually gone through the process to form a USATF or AAU club so they are not covered and are flying by the seat of their pants. Should something happen to one of those kids, I hope they are prepared to lose their job, their house and possibly their freedom.

pmccrystle said...

Dear Anonymous: What i meant is what i said. Of the seven Bellarmine students who ran in Arizona, i have seen only one, one afternoon in September, since March 11th. I only knew that 4 of the runners who ran in Arizona were even running there! We haven't practiced since March 11th, and the last few weeks in our conditioning sessions--which have been great, when they have happened around the smoke--i have only been working with one group of 11 students. And, of the 7 runners who ran for us at the state meet last year, only one is participating in our conditioning sessions, which only happen 2-3 times a week (every other school day.) All other runners who are unable to attend the pods are hopefully using our default off season training program, and given how well 3 of the 7 ran in Arizona i would say some of them are. I do know other programs have had a lot more coach-athlete contact than we have had, and i am envious of them! I haven't maintained very good contact with the potential team members since September, i will admit, mostly because of extended family issues having to do with health, and because teaching remotely is wiping me out...i'm neither as young or energetic as i was when i started teaching, and as probably all classroom teachers will tell you, to do a meaningful job teaching over the internet for the first time requires a crazy amount of prep. And i go by Patrick...gotta go to class!

Anonymous said...

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/sports/santa-rosa-coaches-frustrated-by-shifting-tightened-rules-presented-by-dis/

From today’s Press Democrat. Not all districts have authorized teams to return to conditioning/training.

Anonymous said...

The CA health department restrictions are for youth sports. That includes clubs and high schools. Adult leagues are also not allowed at this time.

A club has the same 12:1 guidelines as everyone else. They are not allowed to use equipment, must social distance, etc. Just like everyone else. If a club is in violation they should be reported.

Anonymous said...

So let's be clear.

The State's youth sports guidance does not set the cohort size: Here is that guidance from August.
https://files.covid19.ca.gov/pdf/guidance-youth-sports--en.pdf

Cohort size is set by the CA DPH with this directive, most recently updated in September, which applies to schools, clubs, civic organizations, etc.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/small-groups-child-youth.aspx
Max cohort size is 16, with the maximum number of youth at 14 in the cohort and no ability for the supervising adults to be in more than one cohort. This is for safety and contact tracing purposes.

Counties, cities, school districts and even individual schools at the direction of their principals may set even tighter restrictions.


Anonymous said...

@3:36pm. I think you have that second part wrong about cohort size being set at 14 for youth sports. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but the directive only applies to schools in Tier 1 counties who are not otherwise permitted to provide-in person instruction. This is a way for these schools (Tier 1 and no waiver) to provide special services/support to cohorts of 14 kids and to do so in-person and indoors. The directive you cited pretty clearly indicates in bold that it doesn't apply to youth sports.

Here's some additional explanation from the State on this directive and what it does and doesn't apply to: https://files.covid19.ca.gov/pdf/guidance-schools-cohort-FAQ.pdf

Anonymous said...

@8:44 Thank you for clarifying

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