tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post294885243221292548..comments2024-03-27T17:43:26.504-07:00Comments on Cross Country Express: Central Coast Section Cross Country Pre-Season rankingsAlbert Caruanahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-39969899050776278022017-07-13T18:38:54.994-07:002017-07-13T18:38:54.994-07:00http://lynbrooksports.prepcaltrack.com/ATHLETICS/X...http://lynbrooksports.prepcaltrack.com/ATHLETICS/XC/2017/comparsn.htm<br /><br />Walt VanZant came up with his CCS "Comparisons".<br /><br />hankHankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193101636229726446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-2719826613452595082017-07-13T17:19:56.215-07:002017-07-13T17:19:56.215-07:00@MV Moose, a lot of the young elite guys and girls...@MV Moose, a lot of the young elite guys and girls are in running clubs mainly because there are only a few school races during the season and the JOs, Footlocker, and other "off season" races are not associated with schools. So, yes most of them have club coaches. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-30971021577646438472017-07-13T16:18:22.844-07:002017-07-13T16:18:22.844-07:00@10:11am
Are you saying that the elite guys (gende...@10:11am<br />Are you saying that the elite guys (gender neutral term?) usually have club coaches? Otherwise, I think your response to @10:09pm is spot on.MV Moosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-34084287680994807562017-07-13T10:11:55.596-07:002017-07-13T10:11:55.596-07:00@10:09 I think you will find that many of the elit...@10:09 I think you will find that many of the elite MS runners come in with a lot less training than you imagine. Usually there is plenty of room for them to grow. They just measure their success in seconds not minutes, and in the ability to move up the rankings, make it to CCS and State, etc. Sure, there are many kids who start running in HS and do very well but so many of the kids who excel have already identified their talent in MS. The key is to bring these kids along slowly and not burn them out by the time they are Juniors and Seniors. That has a lot to do with their MS coach and, more importantly for the elite guys, their club coach's philosophy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-54961752377071405682017-07-12T22:09:44.177-07:002017-07-12T22:09:44.177-07:00Why do some of these middle schoolers train so har...Why do some of these middle schoolers train so hard? It won't make them any faster later on and it is just gonna be demoralizing to barely improve. I have heard of success stories of people starting as late as junior yearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-82020283393750074532017-07-12T18:34:52.984-07:002017-07-12T18:34:52.984-07:00
If Colin Peattie is going to attend Bellarmine, t...<br />If Colin Peattie is going to attend Bellarmine, that could be<br />a game changer for Bellarmine.<br />Peattie was the National JO Champion in cross-country, and had<br />a fantastic track season.<br />He could definitely break into the top 5 at Bellarmine as a freshman,<br />and potentially as high as #3 if he stays healthy.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-72801503424464590212017-07-12T12:48:36.614-07:002017-07-12T12:48:36.614-07:00I did the same with the boys...
1 Bellarmine
2 St....I did the same with the boys...<br />1 Bellarmine<br />2 St. Francis<br />3 Willow Glen<br />4 Homestead<br />5 Los Altos<br />6 Cupertino<br />7 Sacred Ht. Cath<br />8 Santa Teresa<br />9 Pacific Grove<br />10 Lynbrook<br />11 Riordan<br />12 Half Moon Bay<br />13 Greenfield<br />14 Crystal Springs<br />15 Monta Vista<br />16 S.L.V.<br />17 Mitty<br />18 Los Gatos<br />19 St. Ignatius<br />20 Palo Alto<br />Everyone past #11 (HMB and below) have fewer than five returning runners. I somewhat arbitrarily ranked them based on the position of their returners, e.g HMB is returning 1, 2, 3, and 5; so is only losing a single scoring runner - PA loses all but #2.<br />Note: Using my formula, Bells score 80, SF scores 82, then WG is way back with a score of 224.MV Moosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-53206910597282738462017-07-12T12:41:36.784-07:002017-07-12T12:41:36.784-07:00I took the 2016 CCS results, removed the Seniors, ...I took the 2016 CCS results, removed the Seniors, then rescored the meet. With the exception of Monta Vista, all teams in the "new" top 20 had five or more returning CCS competitors. For Monta Vista, I took the time of their 8th runner at leagues and plugged it in. As we all know, a single freshman can greatly improve a teams outlook, and this ranking cannot take that into account. <br />1 Aptos<br />2 St. Francis<br />3 Santa Cruz<br />4 Homestead<br />5 Mountain View<br />6 Gunn<br />7 Valley Chr.<br />8 Monta Vista<br />9 St. Ignatius<br />10 Presentation<br />11 Los Gatos<br />12 Palo Alto<br />13 San Benito<br />14 Scotts Valley<br />15 Soquel<br />16 Carmel<br />17 Menlo School<br />18 Lynbrook<br />19 Menlo-Atherton<br />20 Carlmont<br />A couple of thoughts: Willow Glen's #1 had a bad day at CCS, they could be on this list if I adjusted her time to be closer to her other times during the season. SLV, although they finished 8th last year, only has four returning runners and I couldn't find any results to plug in that moved them up much - a frosh on their team this fall could move them way up. <br />Nueva finished 12th last year and likewise has only four returning runners and I couldn't find any results that move them into the top 20.MV Moosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-28186235546155812202017-07-12T11:26:50.326-07:002017-07-12T11:26:50.326-07:00Collin Pettie will attend Bellarmine.Collin Pettie will attend Bellarmine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-3154305626496762502017-07-12T00:48:00.830-07:002017-07-12T00:48:00.830-07:00What happened to the PAL?What happened to the PAL?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-87727830145079898512017-07-11T14:44:28.003-07:002017-07-11T14:44:28.003-07:00All are welcome to join in. Someone should start a...All are welcome to join in. Someone should start a conversation about the other leagues. A lot of emphasis is placed on WCAL right now because they have the better teams. That is not to say there aren't other good teams in the CCS (Willow Glen) and other fantastic individuals in other leagues. I am just happy that people are discussing the prospects of the teams without falling back into the old tired public vs. private arguments. I think Homestead is gong to have a good year, as well as the previously mentioned WG and Paly. I also think the WBAL is going to have one of their better years for individuals, especially those in D4 and D5. Others? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-7946670348010608222017-07-11T14:33:27.499-07:002017-07-11T14:33:27.499-07:00Why is everyone so interested in WCAL? It seems li...Why is everyone so interested in WCAL? It seems like we have some WCAL parents/athletes/coaches looking for attention.<br /><br />Seriously, there seems to be no talk at all for the other leagues, even SCVAL or BVAL. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-39023867773589574312017-07-10T21:04:48.840-07:002017-07-10T21:04:48.840-07:00Let's just remember that the SF section might ...Let's just remember that the SF section might not be so weak if most of their kids weren't in D3 CCS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-20130922047663237632017-07-10T17:37:26.539-07:002017-07-10T17:37:26.539-07:00The WCAL D3 schools will be very competitive at th...The WCAL D3 schools will be very competitive at the state level. An early poster picked them to sweep the CCS so I think they do get respect. Albert, keep in the name calling (unless it's about a particular kid). A little trash talk is what XC needs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-40623524041052625262017-07-10T16:38:32.765-07:002017-07-10T16:38:32.765-07:00From another poster. I just edited out some unnece...From another poster. I just edited out some unnecessary name calling.<br /><br />Hey people. Enough with the Bell vs St. Francis talk, let's talk about the WCAL D3 dominance. You have three programs (Riordan, SI, SHC) just dominating the field and destroying all these other public schools. I don't see in the future (except possibly Aptos) any other school overtaking one of these schools for CIF State Meet spots. SI has already been established and dominant, SHC has incredible coaching (ala Shannon Rowburry), and Riordan has brought unforeseen success out of literally nowhere (was the second best team for the past two years in D3). I understand Bell vs SF, but look at the SF WCAL schools.Albert Caruanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-46259741256335395192017-07-09T07:09:06.633-07:002017-07-09T07:09:06.633-07:00@4:33 as the dad of a St. Francis runner, I can te...@4:33 as the dad of a St. Francis runner, I can tell that the boys do indeed respect Willow Glen and in no way take their rivalry for granted. CCS coming down to a tie breaker 6th man last year is all you need to know about how close the two teams are in both talent and drive. Nothing will change that at CCS and State this year. Rivalries like Bell vs SF, and WG vs SF is what everyone should hope for and is what makes the boys better competitors. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-27824688600065086252017-07-08T16:33:29.233-07:002017-07-08T16:33:29.233-07:00Willow Glenn to Saint Francis is the Utah Jazz to ...Willow Glenn to Saint Francis is the Utah Jazz to the Chicago Bulls, the Cincinnati Bengals to the 49ers... A qualified adversary worthy of respect, but destined to their shadow...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-576700892718327632017-07-08T12:30:06.630-07:002017-07-08T12:30:06.630-07:00Considering 6 WCAL teams took 8 team spots in D 1-...Considering 6 WCAL teams took 8 team spots in D 1-3, I'd be surprised if nailing the CCS AL time was much of a concern. With SF and Bellarmine the clear favorites, everyone else just has to run a solid race, and get ready for CCS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-63004588242622903072017-07-08T11:49:50.513-07:002017-07-08T11:49:50.513-07:00@11:34 Interesting observation about peaking for L...@11:34 Interesting observation about peaking for League ahead of CCS but for veteran WCAL watchers that is nothing new, especially on the track. With a ridiculous 2 auto spots up for grabs in the WCAL, at league finals distance runners are peaking not only for position but for nailing the CCS AL time, with two weeks of CCS meets in front of them. As for being obsessed with winning, I would hope every team and every league would have the same level of competition and desire to win as these two teams. Isn't that what they run all those miles for anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-53285447717142486172017-07-08T11:44:59.762-07:002017-07-08T11:44:59.762-07:00Edited from a earlier poster.
There are kids who ...Edited from a earlier poster.<br /><br />There are kids who were hurt last year in addition to younger runners who are going to be in the mix. Never said it was bad, just saying that at league finals it is not going to happen. Here's my observation. SF is so obsessed with beating Bell and they will peak for this race and then lose in CCS. Willow Glen has to be loving this. Walker will be CCS champ in XC. Hit those intervals hard in July boys. First place at WCAL #1 is up for grabs!Albert Caruanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-12082993291074390122017-07-08T11:38:27.001-07:002017-07-08T11:38:27.001-07:00@11:13 there is nothing bad for the two dominant t...@11:13 there is nothing bad for the two dominant teams but it is not great for the league Overall. Greater parity among the teams would push everyone forward, especially on the track during duel meets. Right now, the distance races are treated more like training days because Bell and SF have so much depth at every level. Looking at the FS classes, it doesn't look like anything is going to change in the next 2 years, with a slight edge to SF over Bell developing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-49446628567356064092017-07-08T11:13:10.755-07:002017-07-08T11:13:10.755-07:00@6:07, what is so bad about sf/bells sweeping? @6:07, what is so bad about sf/bells sweeping? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-50461793480096352572017-07-08T06:07:38.144-07:002017-07-08T06:07:38.144-07:00@6:14 I hope you are right but the data do not ref...@6:14 I hope you are right but the data do not reflect your promise. Below are the returning 5k times. The Crystal times tell a similar story. And these times don't reflect a few rising soph guys who had breakout track performances. Paulbitski or an unknown freshman is the best chance to break up the Bell/SF sweep. Let's hope that happens.<br /><br />1 15:09.70 MEIKA BEAUDOIN-ROUSSEAU<br />Bellarmine College Prep (CC)<br />2 15:14.10 ALEX SCALES<br />Bellarmine College Prep (CC)<br />3 15:29.10 COLTON COLONNA<br />St. Francis Mountain View (CC)<br />4 15:36.50 SHYAM KUMAR<br />St. Francis Mountain View (CC)<br />5 15:57.90 DANIEL SKAHILL<br />St. Francis Mountain View (CC)<br />6 15:58.30 LUKE PINKEL<br />Bellarmine College Prep (CC)<br />7 16:07.70 NAREN KARUR<br />St. Francis Mountain View (CC)<br />8 16:12.90 NEERAV GADE<br />Bellarmine College Prep (CC)<br />9 16:19.60 ROSS D'ORFANI<br />Bellarmine College Prep (CC)<br />10 16:19.80 ANTONIO MACABANTAD<br />St. Francis Mountain View (CC)<br />11 16:35.50 TREVOR PAULBITSKI<br />Archbishop Riordan (CC)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-27651226537316925252017-07-07T21:30:28.138-07:002017-07-07T21:30:28.138-07:00I feel like Willow Glen could really surprise this...I feel like Willow Glen could really surprise this year. They are deep. With depth, any number of these guys could really break out. Plus, 7 on this list were freshmen. Coach Santamaria does a great job of getting the most from his alerted. Watch out for the Rams!<br /><br />Returning runners (1600M times)<br /><br />1. Zach Walker 4:18.28<br />2. Marco Dal Canto 4:28.77<br />3. Mustafa Abdalla 4:32.27<br />4. Julio Cerda 4:34.41<br />5. Devon Nutti 4:36.14<br />6. Aidan Choy-Marshall 4:38.79<br />7. Nic Dinsdale 4:38.81<br />8. Alex Asch 4:43.90<br />9. Lucas Clark 4:44.90<br />10. J.T. Pappadakis 4:47.66<br />11. Seran Gemechu 4:48.27<br />12. Joshua Grzymala 4:49.28<br />13. Nathan Koketsu 4:50.24<br />14. James Wilkinson 4:52.13<br />15. Julian Virrhueta 4:53.32Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-44430489627822940552017-07-07T18:14:02.763-07:002017-07-07T18:14:02.763-07:00It will not be a Bell/SF only in the top 10. I pro...It will not be a Bell/SF only in the top 10. I promise you that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com