tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post2047306270857207966..comments2024-03-27T17:43:26.504-07:00Comments on Cross Country Express: THE 8TH ANNUAL NORCAL DISTANCE COACHES COLLABORATIVE ROUNDTABLEAlbert Caruanahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-58067400941456419762015-12-30T09:55:43.404-08:002015-12-30T09:55:43.404-08:00@5:35 - I apologize, I was writing in the past ten...@5:35 - I apologize, I was writing in the past tense as to an example of what we "had" done. I offered this as part of the discussion of what do other coaches do to encourage off season running. No uniforms were worn, no school represented, and I will tell you, friendships took place with kids from different schools that were unreal. This was in the NS and a few years back, though. Like I said, no one school put it on, and there were a variety of age groups from about 11 years old through college (the younger runners also sometimes had their coach there or a parent running), and I just offer the idea up in the spirit of the "collaborative roundtable," or a "nugget," for others to consider.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-79639426640773337052015-12-29T17:35:43.565-08:002015-12-29T17:35:43.565-08:00@3:34
Where is this calendar. If near by my kid wo...@3:34<br />Where is this calendar. If near by my kid would love to be there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-67763802464571575712015-12-29T17:34:21.846-08:002015-12-29T17:34:21.846-08:00@3:34
Sounds fair to me. I think rule wise over 50...@3:34<br />Sounds fair to me. I think rule wise over 50% have to be from other schools, which sounds like it does. But there is no way anyone would have a problem with this. Mitty volleyball and basketball run year round "clubs." This seems like a bunch of people just getting together to run, not one team looking for an advantage. (I have seen track teams in full practice with equipment already out there hosting "open track"). <br /><br />If you want to be sure & are from CCS that's a question for your AD & ultimately Steve Filios. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-28368361192593876472015-12-29T15:34:46.944-08:002015-12-29T15:34:46.944-08:00What about open runs? We had winter conditioning ...What about open runs? We had winter conditioning beginning in December for any runner who wanted to participate from any school. A calendar was made where the runs were, the time, the length and kids from up to nine different schools would attend, usually with a coach from each but not always. The calendar would have three or four a week where everybody could get together if they wanted and others just on their own. They were not mandatory, not practices, but they were a lot of fun!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-52925142452519020962015-12-29T14:35:02.901-08:002015-12-29T14:35:02.901-08:00Practice time may not exceed 3 hour practice. Not ...Practice time may not exceed 3 hour practice. Not running time. <br /><br />If practice starts at 2:30 has to end by 5:30. Fill it with weights or running or drills or stretching or whatever you like. <br /><br />Get on a bus drive to trails, warm up, drills, run/workout, cool down, core, stretching, drive back. Easy to go over 3 hours. <br /><br />On another note, amazing how the marching band and school plays can require kids to be there all day, even weekends but not sports.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-52505171204634323852015-12-29T11:01:44.912-08:002015-12-29T11:01:44.912-08:00You can only run so much. 18 hours per week is wa...You can only run so much. 18 hours per week is way more than anyone would possibly need. At an eight-minute pace, that would be about 135 miles per week. 18x60=1,080/8=135Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-33119168044682406882015-12-28T21:07:03.335-08:002015-12-28T21:07:03.335-08:00You are allowed double days, just not on consecuti...You are allowed double days, just not on consecutive days. <br />practice time may not exceed 3 hours, 4 hours total for one day, 18 for the week. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-75593676704870963542015-12-28T14:32:17.820-08:002015-12-28T14:32:17.820-08:00No concussions in XC. Looks like 5 years from now ...No concussions in XC. Looks like 5 years from now every fast kid is going to be off the field and on the trails. Does that hurt or help the smaller schools?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-27481445316226184742015-12-28T14:18:27.949-08:002015-12-28T14:18:27.949-08:00You are allowed to do double days in cross country...You are allowed to do double days in cross country. In football, I believe you can have them 48 hours apart (I am not 100% sure on this one). They definitely have new rules to limit hitting in football.Albert Caruanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-53541522002416977562015-12-28T13:04:35.351-08:002015-12-28T13:04:35.351-08:00Are double-days allowed for football, even in the ...Are double-days allowed for football, even in the WCAL? I remember practicing at least twice a day in the August heat - offense and defense in the AM, special teams and fitness in the PM. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-2415848229606687982015-12-27T18:56:12.471-08:002015-12-27T18:56:12.471-08:00@1:43.
So double days are not allowed unless you h...@1:43.<br />So double days are not allowed unless you have a cross country class, in which case double days are allowed? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-83909722792726082632015-12-23T13:48:06.131-08:002015-12-23T13:48:06.131-08:00I always figured the Bell frosh kids did well beca...I always figured the Bell frosh kids did well because they'd line up 60+ for a race. Those kinds of numbers working together and pushing eachother every day tends to do good things. I'm lucky if I can get 5 boys to come out as frosh.Joel Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835590662970570293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-50195936872405892052015-12-22T18:12:14.794-08:002015-12-22T18:12:14.794-08:00Bell & VC only WCAL school represented? Other ...Bell & VC only WCAL school represented? Other teams have top secret info they scared to share? Lol. Maybe they could write a nugget on how to recruit and not get caught?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-88787052679843249982015-12-22T09:21:57.120-08:002015-12-22T09:21:57.120-08:00There are 8-10 teams in the WCAL. Just because the...There are 8-10 teams in the WCAL. Just because there is anecdotal evidence that the Bell kids do pretty well under the frosh rule does not mean that others are not negatively impacted or that the Bell kids would not have done better if allowed to do what every other league allows. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-69324312697926852502015-12-21T07:40:02.499-08:002015-12-21T07:40:02.499-08:00That Bell freshman squad usually runs pretty well ...That Bell freshman squad usually runs pretty well for having no direction as incoming freshman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-22209558707909164152015-12-20T22:35:05.567-08:002015-12-20T22:35:05.567-08:00Why does WCAL feel the need to protect freshmen XC...Why does WCAL feel the need to protect freshmen XC runners when no other league has a similar rule and there is no evidence that any freshman anywhere in the CCS has suffered because of it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-64253512296253296672015-12-20T20:53:27.193-08:002015-12-20T20:53:27.193-08:00The official practices will begin August 5th this ...The official practices will begin August 5th this coming summer so it's more than just two weeks. I understand why the rule may be in effect in WCAL but from a cross country perspective, it's not in the best interest of those kids. That is just my opinion.Albert Caruanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-53411822884112026652015-12-20T20:07:00.636-08:002015-12-20T20:07:00.636-08:00"Leave the rules to the Coaches"
Um, Co..."Leave the rules to the Coaches"<br /><br />Um, Coaches are idiots when it comes to the rules. That's why the administrators are there. It's their job to keep them in check. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-83087903025588858332015-12-20T20:05:08.961-08:002015-12-20T20:05:08.961-08:00WCAL rules are intended for two purposes:
1) The ...WCAL rules are intended for two purposes:<br /><br />1) The "evil administrators" feel strongly that the summer before high school is one that should be free of pressures of high school sports requirements. <br /><br />2) They do not want coach's having any contact with incoming freshman before the first day of school. I'm sure you can understand why with the accusations toward WCAL schools on this board. Imagine what it's like for high profile sports. <br /><br />Not sure what is to complain about. Doubtful any freshman at Bellarmine will make varsity. If they do doubtful two weeks of practice will make a difference. If they're that good they're running on their own.WCAL Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-43083636656514315782015-12-20T17:12:42.370-08:002015-12-20T17:12:42.370-08:00That's why administrators should administrate ...That's why administrators should administrate and leave the coaching, and the rules to the coaches. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-30012769942672953642015-12-20T15:26:18.506-08:002015-12-20T15:26:18.506-08:00The WCAL rule regarding 9th graders is due to othe...The WCAL rule regarding 9th graders is due to other sports like football and basketball. I am sure an administrator (and perhaps committee) did it to protect freshmen but the end result is definitely a negative one for kids who may be experiencing cross country for the first time.Albert Caruanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434646351717864405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-14343273615833010102015-12-20T15:16:09.317-08:002015-12-20T15:16:09.317-08:00I have not heard of a kid being punished, but I am...I have not heard of a kid being punished, but I am wondering if they are motivated to run in the offseason by getting better or by the threat of coach being angry or being relegated to JV if they are on the bubble (7,8,9). What the heck is wrong with the WCAL? Why would a league disadvantage itself like that. There are freshmen that can compete, even in the WCAL, if they get the chance to come into the season in fighting shape. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-15162824197798216592015-12-20T14:56:18.650-08:002015-12-20T14:56:18.650-08:00Same rules apply for freshmen...except in the WCAL...Same rules apply for freshmen...except in the WCAL. Ours is the only League in the State that I have yet to discover that does not allow incoming 9th graders to train with the team--conditioning or otherwise--until a League established date, which is usually the first day that classes meet for freshmen. It is a ridiculous rule, and one which, in my opinion, no administrator in the League can ably defend or explain!pmccrystlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-29260328750764808042015-12-20T14:47:04.933-08:002015-12-20T14:47:04.933-08:00If you are outside of top 10 aren't you JV any...If you are outside of top 10 aren't you JV anyways? I have never seen a team with a clear top 5 runner not run them varsity. Often 6/7 guys are judgement calls. If you know a top runner who was forced to JV I'd like to hear it. <br /><br />Same rules apply for freshman. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31292861.post-39533667485372441772015-12-20T14:35:17.124-08:002015-12-20T14:35:17.124-08:00Great summary! Now, do coaches actually follow the...Great summary! Now, do coaches actually follow the one stated rule about cutting a kid for not doing the "optional" training? If the kid comes in to XC season outside the top 10, does he get a chance to move up or is he relegated to JV as a punishment? Finally, do any of these rules apply to freshmen coming in to a school before the official start of XC season?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com