Monday, May 20, 2013

NCS/ Meet of Champions Entries

http://running.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/8250/ncs-meet-of-champions-entries/ (One notable scratch is Eugene Hamilton III dropping 800 and focusing on 1600)

35 comments:

Andrew said...
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Albert Caruana said...

It's a whole new ballgame in the 800 at NCS with Hamilton's scratch as well as McKinnon's DQ at Tri-Valley.

Anonymous said...

My guess is Hamilton wins the State Meet in 4:03.

Anonymous said...

He has to win NCS first, and that won't be easy.

Albert Caruana said...

It will be interesting what Haney runs this Saturday in the dream mile. Of course state will be much different as he won't have others leading the way for him.

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NCSftw said...

Why would Hamilton drop the 800? Arcadia champ and state leader seems a more sure event than the 1600. Although he's still a great miler with a wicked kick. Good luck to him

Anonymous said...

Hamilton will run the 800 at nationals.

Anonymous said...

Hamilton will have NO problem winning NCS. The only question will be running back to back days at state where it usually takes a sub 4:15 to make finals then coming back 24 hours later and racing again.

Anonymous said...

"he has to win NCS first.. and that won't be easy.."
hmm. yeahhh okay i'll take your word on that.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why the kid with the fastest 800 time in the nation would drop that event. What am i missing here?

Anonymous said...

second fastest time. andres arroyo went 1:47

Doug Griffith said...

The 1600 is considered a much more prestigious race to run and win than the 800, particularly at the state meet. Without Hamilton and McKinnon, the NCS 800 final will be slower than previous years, but very competitive. The winner may not run a sub 1:54.

Doug Griffith said...

It's truly unfortunate the various DQ's the past two weekends will result in not sending Norcal's best track athletes/relay teams to the State Meet in certain events. Morris in the 300M Hurdles and the Amador & DLS 4x100 teams will be missed at the MOC this weekend. Fortunately, most of these kids have other races that will still provide them an opportunity to compete for a spot in the state meet.

Anonymous said...

Heard some O'Dowd parents talking at a meet that he has a goal of breaking 4:00 before he graduates. Maybe that has something to do with the scratch...just parents talking, but seems like he is moving in that direction. That would be something.

Anonymous said...

I'm all for goals and what not but doesn't every high school miler want to break 4:00 before they graduate? Knocking 12 seconds off to get there seems a little out there... May be fun to watch

Andrew said...

the 1600 is also just easier than the 800.

1. 12 qualifiers for the finals at both NCS and state.

2. Hamilton clearly has the best kick in the 1600 field, certainly at NCS and I feel at state as well. In the trials, if he feels he needs, he can just kick at the very end and save his energy for finals while guaranteeing he still makes finals.

3. The 1600 is a less intense race. There is more room for error. The slowest finals qualifier at state in the 800 may run a 1:53. That's still a dang fast time and just a simple mistake from not even making finals. In order to win the heat, it may take a 1:51. That's pretty close to all out for anyone.

In the 1600, the slowest qualifier could be anywhere from 4:10-4:20. That's a lot of time to squeeze into to qualify for finals.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about 12 seconds, but from his race at stanford, it looked like he could have ran 5-6 seconds faster probably

Anonymous said...

The kid is very good. However, He is not going under 4 minutes in the mile IMHO. End the crazy talk now.

Anonymous said...

He ran a 56.0 last lap when he raced at Stanford. I think that right there shows that he could've gone way faster at Stanford. He is clearly still a rookie at the Mile and needs more experience to really run it well. I think 4:03 is a good estimate for what he runs this season if he does it at State and after State as well.

I think his freshman year of college he will run a 1500 equivalent of 3:56.

Anonymous said...

hutchins will win it the 16.

Anonymous said...

4:03? he's at 4:11...

Anonymous said...

Let the kids run. It'll be a great weekend of racing.

Anonymous said...

I agree. It's fun to speculate, but let the kids decide what's going to happen on the track.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
hutchins will win it the 16.

10:49 PM

lol yeah.
hutchins will outkick Hamilton.
sure buddy.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 7:18 PM
Yeah I agree. Hutchins has more experience in the 1600 and his speed makes him the easy favorite over hamilton.

FPNLBMPS said...

@7:35

The person at 7:18 was being sarcastic.

Also, there is NO CHANCE Hutchins will beat Hamilton. While Eugene has not run many 1600 races, Eugene is GUARANTEED the win at MOC because of his superior kick, which is obvious to the intelligent.

However, state will be different, and as for the claims of "sub 4", that will NEVER happen, as the field will NOT go sub 60 pace for 4 laps, and is more likely to go 61-62.

Anonymous said...

How come still no heat sheets on the NCS site? I guess we will just have to wait for the program to see the heats!

Andrew said...

there are never heat sheets given out before the meet. You just have to infer the heats from the seeds link below (snake all of the running events and divide the field events into 3 flights basically).

Anonymous said...

Andrew: What do you mean by the phrase, "snake all of the running events"??

Does it mean:
Heat 1: Seed 1, seed 4, seed 7, etc
Heat 2: Seed 2, seed 5, seed 8, etc
Heat 3: Seed 3, seed 6, seed 9, etc??

Albert Caruana said...

No. Fastest in heat 1, 2nd fastest in heat 2, 3rd fastest in heat 3, 4th fastest in heat 3, 5th in heat 2, 6th in heat 1, 7th in heat 1 and so on if 3 heats.

Anonymous said...

Is this based on the entries list now? What if someone else drops out now..do they leave that lane empty or do people move up a seed?

Anonymous said...

What about Blair Hurlock dropping the 1600 ( where he ran a 4:15 which is the CIF at-large) and focusing on the 3200. He seems to have had a breakthrough performance a tri-valley, and he's my favorite for moc and possibly state.

Anonymous said...

are you kidding me? Lawson will smash Hurlock without a second thought. They're not even in the same class of runner. Lawson has run 4:11 and 8:58, both of which, by the way, where huge negative splits.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone clarify the procedure for the 800 at NCS-MOC? Below is what it says in the bulletin for the MOC. Are there 8 in the finals or 12? The two paragraphs give conflicting information.

LANE ASSIGNMENT IN TRIALS AND FINALS:
There will be three preliminary heats in the 800‐meters, with runners starting in alleys for the first turn. The first, second and third placers in each
heat, plus the next three fastest times will qualify for the final. The final field will be comprised of 12 total athletes.
There will be two heats in the 1600‐meter run, with runners starting in alleys for the first turn. The first 4 placers in each heat, plus the next fastest
four (4) times will qualify for the final. The final field will be comprised of 12 total athletes.
The 3200‐meter run will be conducted as a final only for all entrants on Saturday. Runners will use alleys for the first turn.
In the 800m, the 1600m and the 3200m preliminaries and finals, the races will be seeded with the fastest qualifier placed on the outside of alley 2,
and the other competitors in ascending order toward the curb. The slowest qualifier will be in lane one. One third of the runners will start in alley
2, and the remaining two‐thirds of the field will start in alley 1.
QUALIFYING FOR RUNNING FINALS:
In all races except the 1600m run the first place finishers in each trial heat will qualify for the finals. The remaining qualifiers will be
determined by the times they run in those trial heats. In the case of a tie(s) for first in the trials, all runners involved in the first place
tie will qualify for the finals and the number of non‐first place finishers will be reduced to ensure there are not more than eight
runners in the finals of all races.
In the 1600m run there will be two (2)

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